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BIH 8
Aug 16, 2012 12:22:51 GMT -6
Post by Douglas E Wright on Aug 16, 2012 12:22:51 GMT -6
Any idea if this will be out by the end of August, or will it be later?
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BIH 8
Aug 16, 2012 17:10:48 GMT -6
Post by razz on Aug 16, 2012 17:10:48 GMT -6
Tom told me last week that he's hoping for an October release!
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BIH 8
Aug 16, 2012 17:46:23 GMT -6
Post by Douglas E Wright on Aug 16, 2012 17:46:23 GMT -6
Tom told me last week that he's hoping for an October release! Looks like I missed that. Thanks for the info! ;D
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BIH 8
Aug 16, 2012 18:49:58 GMT -6
Post by razz on Aug 16, 2012 18:49:58 GMT -6
Doug, I have a tale in it, so I queried him about it. That's how I got the scoop!
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 0:23:39 GMT -6
Post by Douglas E Wright on Aug 17, 2012 0:23:39 GMT -6
I thought the last time I saw it mentioned, he had said August. Phew - glad it wasn't senility that had set in.
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 4:48:18 GMT -6
Post by markgunnells on Aug 17, 2012 4:48:18 GMT -6
I'll be glad to see it out as well. I mean, I'll be sharing space with the winner of the Lansdale short story award!!!!
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 12:06:43 GMT -6
Post by razz on Aug 17, 2012 12:06:43 GMT -6
Awesome, Doug!!!!
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 13:27:58 GMT -6
Post by Douglas E Wright on Aug 17, 2012 13:27:58 GMT -6
Thanks guys. And to be in with you two will be fabulous.
Really appreciate the mention, Mark. There's another thread on the Crypt that leads to the free story on Joe's website.
I haven't been really submitting stories for quite some time and BIH 8, though it's an older style of writing, will give me some fresh exposure.
And there are lots more tales on the way. ;D
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 13:46:49 GMT -6
Post by razz on Aug 17, 2012 13:46:49 GMT -6
Thanks guys. And to be in with you two will be fabulous. Really appreciate the mention, Mark. There's another thread on the Crypt that leads to the free story on Joe's website. I haven't been really submitting stories for quite some time and BIH 8, though it's an older style of writing, will give me some fresh exposure. And there are lots more tales on the way. ;D Great to hear, Doug! Can't wait to see BIH #8!
BTW, I HAVE been submitting shorts etc. all over---just can't place as many as I'd like... Got a novella, and two novelettes that have been sitting for what seems like months at various publishers but haven't heard anything back. Is it just me, or do most of these publishers appear to favor the big name writers over others, you know: read their work first? Just asking...
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 14:17:18 GMT -6
Post by Douglas E Wright on Aug 17, 2012 14:17:18 GMT -6
No, I don't think anyone favours big names, not to the exclusion of others. But they do have to sell copies, so the big names have to come into play. And I'd rather have that. I was published in England a few years ago and my story followed one by Dean Koontz. Mine was only a 1/2 page so it ran nicely under his. People to this day remember my story because where it landed in the magazine.
I was also published in the same magazine, different issue, as Neil Gaiman. When I finally met him here in Victoria in 2005, he recognized my name when I asked him to sign Anansi Boys. I ended up signing the Horror Express magazine we were both in for him.
So, yes it helps that there are big names in the publication. And I've been reading many publications for years to determine what they actually publish. And most of those I've never got into either. I read books / anthologies all the time so I can see why whomever got into that particular publication.
Mark and I write completely different types of fiction. He can put out 5 short stories to my 1 and they are all very good. We just have different markets. And that's something to keep in mind too, if it's not working, look to others and their tales to see what the difference is. I know mine, at least until recently, had a literary bent to them and are dark fantasy rather than horror. Good or bad? Neither. Just different markets. Maybe you're submitting to the wrong ones. Take a look at your stories and compare, not to see if they're good or bad, just why they're different. And if you find them so different, then why? Maybe you need to take some writing classes or read more out of the genre of your choice. I favour literary more than horror, supernatural more than slasher.
Hope this helps a little. Over the past couple of years, I've been on the quest to why my stuff was so different and not selling. Until last year, I had no idea they were a tad literary. It was Tom that pointed it out to me.
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 15:42:33 GMT -6
Post by razz on Aug 17, 2012 15:42:33 GMT -6
Thanks for the input, Doug! I understand where you're coming from. Don't get me wrong---I've had a good amount of short tales accepted, some even getting top billing as lead story! What bugs me is the fact that I've sent out my novella and novelette (just finished the second one) to a few publishers, who promise to get to it in a month or so. The month or so goes by, I've queried them, and they promise again to get to it soon, since they've been so busy. Well, then I see on their site that a bunch of new books are slated for release, the publisher has commented in forums how he/she has been reading big name author's newest submission and loves it, etc. etc. Now, I understand that the reputable authors are what push sales and all that, but if you're really not going to get to my novella/novelette anytime soon, the least you can do is say so!? It's unfair to me and others in my position to wait for months and months when we could have sent our work elsewhere, so we'd have a better shot at getting published. I'm steppng off my soapbox now. Thanks!
PS: Then when I requery the publisher as to my work's status, I get a deaf ear in response!? Come on.
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BIH 8
Aug 17, 2012 16:24:36 GMT -6
Post by Douglas E Wright on Aug 17, 2012 16:24:36 GMT -6
I know where you're coming from. It is terribly unfair and not professional at all. If they can't answer your emails, especially if they gave you a 30 day response time, it's not respectful to you as an author. Your time and work is as every bit as valuable as theirs. Having said that, sometimes, things get out of hand, especially for small publishers. Most times it's only them, family and friends running the show. But also, they might be in over their heads and putting out authors that they know will sell in the hopes of getting to the others later. However, later becomes further and further into the future and the waiting author is becoming that much more angry. I have been in this position and now I wait for about six months before pulling the story/book. I really do try to give them the benefit of doubt. But again, there's no reason for no response. Again, it comes down to respect. Over the years I've waited as much as two years for an answer on a story. Not anymore. You just have to decide if it's worth the wait or frustration. What happens when this occurs is that the author is no longer willing to submit to said market and will skip them entirely with future works. And that might be more beneficial to the health of both. The author won't have to wait and the publisher won't have the pressure of said author waiting. Anyway, that's my take.
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BIH 8
Aug 18, 2012 4:40:06 GMT -6
Post by markgunnells on Aug 18, 2012 4:40:06 GMT -6
Sometimes I feel like the public needs big names. Not to be all maudlin, I have been very lucky to have published as much as I have, but I will say this, trying to sell this stuff is a world of work, and trying to get feedback (which that is how us unknown authors make a name for ourselves, word of mouth) I've found nearly impossible.
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BIH 8
Aug 18, 2012 11:17:31 GMT -6
Post by razz on Aug 18, 2012 11:17:31 GMT -6
Damn, Mark, with your list of credits, if you're having trouble getting recognized what chance do I have?
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BIH 8
Oct 16, 2012 14:21:20 GMT -6
Post by Billie Moran on Oct 16, 2012 14:21:20 GMT -6
BIH 8 is next up. For the past two weeks we have been working on a massive release including Shades of Lovecraft by Paul Melniczek, From Murky Depths by Brett Williams, The Yellow Rose Diner by Snutch Labs (paperback edition), The Smell of Cherries by Jeffrey Goddin (includes four short stories), Hacks by Brian Knight (paperback edition), American Gomorrah by Sam W Anderson (includes all the money run tales and an extra one), and Bleeding the Vein by T. G. Arsenault. Some are now available, some will become available this weekend, but we've been busting our butts trying to get a good collection for a Halloween promotion we'll be putting together. Black Ink 8 is next on the agenda, so for anyone looking forward to it, it's right around the corner....
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