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Post by thunderstormbooks on Oct 6, 2010 4:15:08 GMT -6
Now I am trying to look at it from Zach's point of view. Why not try it? If he has the knowledge and the connections, why not start up a press that has some of the initial stages done, talk with Paul about what he would have changed and make those changes. I would be all over it! I see nothing wrong with using artwork where everyone has already been paid, signature sheets already filled out etc. One thing I'd like to point out is that taking over a project is no easier than starting one from scratch. The reason is that even if some work is already done, the new press still needs to go back and negotiate and get permission with regards to all the rights pertaining to the work. That means the artist, the author, the designer(s)...everyone. I agree that some time may be saved, but that is about it.
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Post by etaylor on Oct 6, 2010 5:55:48 GMT -6
Now I am trying to look at it from Zach's point of view. Why not try it? If he has the knowledge and the connections, why not start up a press that has some of the initial stages done, talk with Paul about what he would have changed and make those changes. I would be all over it! I see nothing wrong with using artwork where everyone has already been paid, signature sheets already filled out etc. One thing I'd like to point out is that taking over a project is no easier than starting one from scratch. The reason is that even if some work is already done, the new press still needs to go back and negotiate and get permission with regards to all the rights pertaining to the work. That means the artist, the author, the designer(s)...everyone. I agree that some time may be saved, but that is about it. What if the new publisher operated under the old publisher's business license? Just being a conspiracy theorist...
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Post by jonah on Oct 6, 2010 6:14:51 GMT -6
Now I am trying to look at it from Zach's point of view. Why not try it? If he has the knowledge and the connections, why not start up a press that has some of the initial stages done, talk with Paul about what he would have changed and make those changes. I would be all over it! I see nothing wrong with using artwork where everyone has already been paid, signature sheets already filled out etc. One thing I'd like to point out is that taking over a project is no easier than starting one from scratch. The reason is that even if some work is already done, the new press still needs to go back and negotiate and get permission with regards to all the rights pertaining to the work. That means the artist, the author, the designer(s)...everyone. I agree that some time may be saved, but that is about it. Thanks for the additional insight. I truly know absolutely nothing about the publishing process so any little tidbits like this I find very interesting.
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Post by gnbraun on Oct 7, 2010 20:21:01 GMT -6
I had a previous relationship with FMP to critique each book as it came out, and I did so. The releases were good quality (the numbered, at least), and Paul did well by me. I remember when rumours first started about KWP, I googled them and found a printing company, not a publisher. I still get no results from Google apart from the same printing company. Paul seemed a very nice guy who had severe health issues. I do have to say that this whole thing strikes me as slightly suspicious in regard to the close affiliation the new publisher has with FMP, but if they aren't taking pre-orders and only announce once the books are ready then the same mistakes aren't being made again. Time will tell with this one, and all the speculation in the world won't change that. Brian and Dezm, I agree this looks bad. If it were me, I would have scrapped the sig sheets and started off with an entirely new title...
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Post by sweeper4football on Oct 8, 2010 9:40:13 GMT -6
QUOTE: 'I remember when rumours first started about KWP, I googled them and found a printing company, not a publisher. I still get no results from Google apart from the same printing company.'
KWP website has been on the net for about 6 months I think. But things were kept quiet until the 1st book was ready.
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Post by sweeper4football on Oct 8, 2010 9:49:58 GMT -6
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Post by gnbraun on Oct 8, 2010 16:49:43 GMT -6
Thanks, Jason. I'll keep an eye out and I hope things work out for the best for everyone. Somehow, it still looks like a bit of virtual prestidigitation to me...I hope I'm wrong, and I wish I wasn't so cynical...
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Post by zachmccain on Oct 8, 2010 21:22:36 GMT -6
Now I am trying to look at it from Zach's point of view. Why not try it? If he has the knowledge and the connections, why not start up a press that has some of the initial stages done, talk with Paul about what he would have changed and make those changes. I would be all over it! I see nothing wrong with using artwork where everyone has already been paid, signature sheets already filled out etc. One thing I'd like to point out is that taking over a project is no easier than starting one from scratch. The reason is that even if some work is already done, the new press still needs to go back and negotiate and get permission with regards to all the rights pertaining to the work. That means the artist, the author, the designer(s)...everyone. I agree that some time may be saved, but that is about it. I'm the guy who did the art for Killer's Diary. I was paid by Paul Little to illustrate the book for Full Moon Press. I was under the impression that King’s Way Press is Paul Little. That is the reason I allowed the art to be used. Now from what I’m seeing KWP is not Paul Little and is Zach Powell. I was never asked for permission to use the art by KWP nor was I paid a licensing fee. Update: I was just paid for the rights to license the art.
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Post by JDar on Oct 9, 2010 0:52:56 GMT -6
. . . . Update: I was just paid for the rights to license the art. lol - another example of how Message Boards and threads like this provide positive lines of communication. Jan (EDIT: can't spell and forgot to use the nifty spell-check )
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Post by gnbraun on Oct 9, 2010 0:55:43 GMT -6
I'm the guy who did the art for Killer's Diary. I was paid by Paul Little to illustrate the book for Full Moon Press. I was under the impression that King’s Way Press is Paul Little. That is the reason I allowed the art to be used. Now from what I’m seeing KWP is not Paul Little and is Zach Powell. I was never asked for permission to use the art by KWP nor was I paid a licensing fee. Update: I was just paid for the rights to license the art. First up, I love your art, Zach...and next, I find that very unprofessional of KWP, and it makes me wonder even more if Paul is actually involved with KWP...
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Post by sweeper4football on Oct 9, 2010 6:25:21 GMT -6
I'm the guy who did the art for Killer's Diary. I was paid by Paul Little to illustrate the book for Full Moon Press. I was under the impression that King’s Way Press is Paul Little. That is the reason I allowed the art to be used. Now from what I’m seeing KWP is not Paul Little and is Zach Powell. I was never asked for permission to use the art by KWP nor was I paid a licensing fee. Update: I was just paid for the rights to license the art. First up, I love your art, Zach...and next, I find that very unprofessional of KWP, and it makes me wonder even more if Paul is actually involved with KWP... I don't know anymore than anyone else here but lets say Paul is running it. In the KWP newsletter this was said: For those who did not cash out, I have great news! Your lifetime subscription has been picked up and resumed by KWP. You will receive the same number/letter as you had with FMP! This offer only applies to those who had a subscription paid for in full and have not been reimbursed in cash or books. Those who had a subscription that was partially paid and not reimbursed, you will receive books in value up to the amount paid. Anyone having an existing order for Killer's Diary from FMP will receive a copy of the book from KWP and will not be charged for the difference in price! This message is for those of you who either received a cash or book settlement for your FMP subscription. Even though your subscription has been "settled", I am prepared to offer you a generous discount on all future KWP titles. Please email me for details. Once I have verified yor status as a former subscriber, I will prepare your discount for you. Now if this does happen, this is great news for all those who didn't get what was coming to them (myself included)
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Post by kresby on Oct 9, 2010 6:26:06 GMT -6
I'm the guy who did the art for Killer's Diary. I was paid by Paul Little to illustrate the book for Full Moon Press. I was under the impression that King’s Way Press is Paul Little. That is the reason I allowed the art to be used. Now from what I’m seeing KWP is not Paul Little and is Zach Powell. I was never asked for permission to use the art by KWP nor was I paid a licensing fee. Update: I was just paid for the rights to license the art. First up, I love your art, Zach...and next, I find that very unprofessional of KWP, and it makes me wonder even more if Paul is actually involved with KWP... For me the wondering is over. Glad you were taken care of Zach. Now however I wonder if other artists and the like have been paid? Shady business?
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Post by mistercrowley on Oct 9, 2010 9:34:11 GMT -6
That is VERY shady that Zach wasn't paid until just now and didn't even know Mr. Powell was running KWP. The more I hear the less I like.
Jim
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Post by dezm on Oct 9, 2010 10:29:55 GMT -6
Thanks to Zach for posting. I dig your art, man.
And now I have no doubt that Little is involved with KWP. If not than Powell's just as much a scam artist trying to screw over the people that help put the book together.
You'd think they would have contacted the artists way before producing the book. Dumbasses. And Assholes. I'm thinking Zach never would have got paid if none of this hubub about the press was started.
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Post by dringlish on Oct 9, 2010 11:13:05 GMT -6
I'm intrigued by the book, but decided to pass. When I look up ownership information for the King's Way Press website on whois.com, it gives me the address, phone number and email address for Paul Little. While it may certainly be inaccurate, it seems to suggest the press is owned by him. The whole thing makes me feels a little too uneasy.
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